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JT.High
04-02-2009, 08:18 PM
WTF?

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Time Warner will track, charge by Internet usage

Thursday, April 2 ( updated 6:03 pm)

By Joe Killian (http://www.news-record.com/whois/joe_killian)
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GREENSBORO — Looking to save money? Turn down the thermostat. Don’t leave the water running. And, starting this fall, watch your Web surfing.
Time Warner Cable has made the Triad a test market for metered Internet service — a plan to monitor customers’ broadband data use and charge heavy users extra fees.

Cable customers who have a specially priced deal, like an introductory plan or other promotion, will see no immediate change. But when those contracts are up, they will have to choose a plan ranging from $29.95 to $54.90 a month. Plans will cap usage at 5, 10, 20, and 40 gigabytes of data per month. Customers will pay an extra $1 for every extra gigabyte they use.

What’s in a gigabyte?

That’s roughly:

• 70,000 e-mails;
• 1,344 hours — 56 days going 24-7 — of Internet surfing;
• Downloading or uploading 569 photos or 277 music files.

And, getting to the heart of the matter, it’s just 45 minutes of high definition streaming video.

“Video is where we see the most online data usage,” said Melissa Buscher, director of media relations for Time Warner Cable’s Carolina region. “When we set up our infrastructure and our pricing plans, we couldn’t have anticipated what’s happened in online video. Hulu, Netflix, streaming television shows on web sites — we’re seeing an online data increase of 50 percent every year.”

Buscher said in order to make sure everyone gets the Internet speed they’re used to, some heavy-use customers will have to begin paying more.

“This will really give people the option of deciding how much they want to pay for the service they actually use,” Buscher said. “With these new plans, no longer will people who aren’t downloading heavily have to subsidize Internet use for those who are heavy downloaders.”

But customers used to unlimited data at a flat monthly rate said they were offended by the change.

“To say other people are subsidizing me is ridiculous,” said Jay Montlo, 23. “They sold me an unlimited plan and I bought it because I watch a lot of online video and I’m an online gamer. Now they’re going back and saying it’s not fair for me to use so much of something that’s unlimited for everyone.”

Buscher said the new price structure may be a hard adjustment, but the company’s months of testing in Beaumont, Texas leads it to believe most customers won’t see much of a difference.

“We estimate 86 percent of our customers will see no change in price,” she said. “And like with their cell phone plans some may realize they don’t need 40 gigs of data every month, and they can drop down to a cheaper plan.”

In Beaumont about 14 percent of users went over their data cap. Additional fees averaged $19 a month.

But Beaumont, Texas is different from Greensboro. It’s smaller, has an older population, fewer college students and doesn't have the vibrant online community that once earned this city the nickname “Blogsboro.”

“I don’t have any idea how much bandwidth I use right now,” said Roch Smith, a local web designer and blogger. “I don’t really think of it that way.”

There will be a three-month “education process” before the pricing shift, Time Warner said. Customers can log in to their accounts to track their usage before choosing their new plan in the fall.

But Smith said making customers more wallet-conscious about the way they use the Internet will stifle creativity and keep them from embracing new video and audio products online.

That could be part of the motivation, several customers suggested, because Time Warner has seen increased online competition for its cable TV and movie-on-demand products.

Smith said whatever the reason, the move will mean less innovation.

“I think it’s just a terrible thing for the city to have our highest speed broadband priced in a way that’s unlike every other city our size,” Smith said. “Making us a ‘test market’ makes people on the cutting edge pay more and discourages people from discovering new things, things that are going to be very important in the future.”
Contact Joe Killian at 373-7023 or joe.killian@news-record.com

TeknoSounds
04-02-2009, 09:00 PM
retardedly ghey.

laurenislost
04-02-2009, 09:18 PM
This is really going to put a damper on my snuff film addiction :-(

TeknoSounds
04-02-2009, 09:35 PM
well good thing I use Grande anyway :D

laurenislost
04-02-2009, 09:51 PM
I didn't have the option to chose, it was between this and Earthlink, which apparently is the same anyway, weeeak.. Hell I would have even gone with shitty ass AT&T and their "U-verse" had I the option... F-ing bullshit!

JT.High
04-02-2009, 11:19 PM
It pisses me off because I play games online and I buy my games on Steam. GTA IV was a 15 gig Download by itself.

djcode
04-02-2009, 11:32 PM
yeah this is not a good move on time warner's part, they need to focus on incremental increase in cost, and significant increase in infrastructure!!!

Pope_G
04-02-2009, 11:34 PM
TWC is the biggest money grubbing, crock of shit corporation in the South. No bullshit. Everyone should stop using their services immediately. AT&T shits on TWC anyway.

I mean really.. are we going backwards and going to start charging by the minute next instead? What is this.. 1994 AOL? gtfoh. I actually like this move on their part.. only exposes their greed all the more.

mykull
04-02-2009, 11:37 PM
yeah they did this type of trial shit last year when i was working there. looks like theyre trying it out again, must not have worked out very well for them last year hahaha, fuck time warner!

JT.High
04-02-2009, 11:41 PM
I told my parents to switch to Grande but it's not available out here.

AOS
04-03-2009, 04:32 AM
It's definitely going to put a cramp on the collective style of digital DJs...or even just downloading mixes for that matter.

Belmont
04-03-2009, 04:56 AM
It pisses me off because I play games online and I buy my games on Steam. GTA IV was a 15 gig Download by itself.

This.

d's nuts
04-03-2009, 09:17 AM
looks like i'll be switching.

Jesus F. Christ
04-03-2009, 09:36 AM
I wonder if Grande is available where I live yet. Fuck!!! >.<

I just got TWC like 2 months ago too.

ArtificialInvasion
04-03-2009, 10:44 AM
thats funny, i was gonna post this... ATT is gonna do it too..
they are trying to limit the pirates from downloading so much shite.. after u hit that "cap" its gonna be like a $5 per gig u go over.. sucks for poeple who get free music,proggys,movies, and also people who game, like myself...

elo fo sho
04-03-2009, 10:57 AM
this fucking sucks. the only services offered in my area are all the ones that are gonna charge. i can only imagine what my bill will look like. it's already $120 as it is...

ArtificialInvasion
04-03-2009, 11:00 AM
^^^ yeah, just call ur provider and ask what the cap is... im assuming everyone thats mad either games, watches movies through netflicks, or gets "free" shit.. :popcorn:

elo fo sho
04-03-2009, 11:17 AM
i don't really know much about this bandwidth nonsense, so how much do games take up? i play wow and sometimes there will be 3, maybe even 4 computers running on my internet all at once. the last thing i want is to pay hundreds of dollars in overage charges.

ArtificialInvasion
04-03-2009, 11:29 AM
basically, the company will put a "cap" on the amount u can use.. i dont know how much running wow on 4 computers will go, but i know its a hell of alot more than running it only on one..

elo fo sho
04-03-2009, 11:44 AM
basically, the company will put a "cap" on the amount u can use.. i dont know how much running wow on 4 computers will go, but i know its a hell of alot more than running it only on one..


i figured :p i was just trying to get a number so i can know if 40GB is not enough, which i'm almost sure it's not.

ArtificialInvasion
04-03-2009, 12:38 PM
google it.. should find something.. gotta love google :biggrin:

junglist247365
04-03-2009, 12:50 PM
yep.. those of you that think this is will be any different with Grande or ATT in the VERY near future are setting themselves up for disappointment... I to am really annoyed by the transition however it is something that is going to hit EVERY provider and EVERY customer on ANY network by the end of next year. Unless your on a T1 or T3

I think its complete and udder BS but there is rational reasoning behind the transition they estimate on all networks that 5% of the users use 95% of the bandwidth much of which is spent torrents and illegal activities.. basically blame the hackers and anyone that downloads FREE movies and MP3's

basically they can't put a stop to copyright issues therefore they are pressured to put this type of structure in place, places like the UK have had this on ISDN lines for YEARS and it is nothing new... blame the hackers, torrenters and your friends that leave their torrent programs open 24/7 they are really the ones to blame not the providers... really irritating and i'm not about to take the side of the communications industry however their is justification for what they are doing and the illegal activities online are to blame...

Unfortunately this will put a huge damper in the video, gaming and music industries online, streaming audio session

as an example - if you listen to a audio stream at 128kbps for 60 minutes you've used about 60MB of traffic, a 512kbps stream for 60 minutes uses about 225MB

this can start to add up quickly and should be considered, reasonable bandwidth charges.. but when people torrent 5-6 movies a day at 800MB a piece that 4.8GB a day and shouldn't be considered normal use as its really not and will start to get real expensive real fast, that will deter a lot of people from torrenting irresponsibility..

I am a web developer and a network admin, do 0 torrenting or illegal downloading and I don't even know how much we use a month but its got to be high and now i'm going to have to pay the price for others mistakes, you can say its greed by the telcom companies but realistically that is not the issue here

TeknoSounds
04-03-2009, 12:52 PM
ya, this is gonna kill me...

thing is I already pay a premium for a really fast connection *sigh*

JT.High
04-03-2009, 12:58 PM
At least TWC is just charging $1 per extra gig you use and not $5. It's still shitty but I do understand the logic behind it.

ArtificialInvasion
04-03-2009, 01:11 PM
Its a smart move on the anti torrenting and pirating free shit, i gotta hand them that.. i think the last thing i heard was like 75% of poeple will not go over becuase they dont do illigal activity, the other 25% will suffer (hackers, torenters,piraters, and sadley, web developers.. .. like jc said.. "FUCKIN HACKERS!!"

ArtificialInvasion
04-03-2009, 01:15 PM
just found this..

AT&T Inc., the country's largest Internet provider, is considering charging extra for customers who download large amounts of data.
http://a.abcnews.com/images/Technology/ap_att_080501_mn.jpg An AT&T retail store is shown in New York's Times Square on Tuesday, March 18, 2008.
(Mark Lennihan/AP Photo)

"A form of usage-based pricing for those customers who have abnormally high usage patterns is inevitable," spokesman Michael Coe said this week.
The top 5 percent of AT&T's DSL customers use 46 percent of the total bandwidth, Coe said. Overall bandwidth use on the network is surging, doubling every year and a half.
AT&T doesn't have any specific plans or fees to announce yet, Coe said.
Most cable companies have official or secret caps on the amount of data they allow subscribers to download every month. Time Warner Cable started a trial earlier this month in Beaumont, Texas, under which it will charge subscribers who go over their monthly bandwidth cap $1 per gigabyte.



Cable companies are at the forefront of usage-based pricing because neighbors share capacity on the local cable lines, and bandwidth hogs can slow down traffic for others. Phone companies have been less concerned about congestion because the phone lines they use to provide Internet service using DSL, or Digital Subscriber Line technology, aren't shared between neighbors, but AT&T is evidently concerned about congestion higher up in the network.

Those who mainly do Web surfing or e-mail use little data and have scant reason to pay attention to traffic caps. But those who download movies or TV, particularly in high definition, can hit the caps imposed by cable companies.
Download caps could put a crimp in the plans of services like Apple Inc.'s iTunes that use the Internet to deliver video. DVD-by-mail pioneer Netflix Inc. just launched a TV set-top box that receives an unlimited stream of Internet video to a TV set for as little as $8.99 per month.
Copyright 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed

laurenislost
04-06-2009, 11:15 PM
http://www.petitiononline.com/nocap/petition.html

Not sure if it will help, but why not, right?

junglist247365
04-07-2009, 12:45 AM
i don't really know much about this bandwidth nonsense, so how much do games take up? i play wow and sometimes there will be 3, maybe even 4 computers running on my internet all at once. the last thing i want is to pay hundreds of dollars in overage charges.

according to the fees outlined in most of the proposals $5/GB if you go over $40/mo - 40GB + $5/per/GB over its hard to say what any one program will take just because we are trained not to have pay attention. it depends on the game and traffic .. etc people that don't watch for adware could get in serious trouble as some of that stuff reports back to server often!

they will outline tiers basically like the cell phone providers, if you use more you pay more, I think this will follow the same path as the cell phone industry after awhile, competition will drive the price down to $.10-.50 per GB in 4-5yrs easy... when all the fiber is down in the US and most of the infrastructure upgrades are finished the costs will get cheaper again, technology follows cycles and trends, just another bump in the road

TeknoSounds
04-07-2009, 12:49 AM
like someone said earlier....its like taking a step backward to the AOhelL dark ages.

granted it will but a big dent in the pirates n what-not. But this is gonna impact a large number of legit users of streaming and gaming (remember your consoles too).

junglist247365
04-07-2009, 12:55 AM
+ web developers

:whine:

TeknoSounds
04-07-2009, 01:15 AM
heh exactly.

I use up a ton of bandwidth uploading pictures, mixes, hacked copies of software *cough*

Wyld Stallyns
04-07-2009, 11:55 AM
TWC is the biggest money grubbing, crock of shit corporation in the South. No bullshit. Everyone should stop using their services immediately. AT&T shits on TWC anyway.

I mean really.. are we going backwards and going to start charging by the minute next instead? What is this.. 1994 AOL? gtfoh. I actually like this move on their part.. only exposes their greed all the more.

uh...thanks, but I'll stick with a company whose balls aren't in the vice grip of the CWA.

Cindersadnb
04-07-2009, 12:03 PM
I read somewhere that this is going to encounter some resistance, to some sort of extent, with the major media o utlets due to streaming online news, etc etc.


can anyone confirm this?

TeknoSounds
04-07-2009, 12:26 PM
but damn we forgot the #1 usage of bandwidth.... PORN! :giggity:

Radio
04-07-2009, 12:28 PM
well good thing I use Grande anyway :D

Im sorry man we have grande in Jester and its terrible.

TeknoSounds
04-07-2009, 12:55 PM
that sucks...I've got badass service. think I'm at the 13Mbit barrier.

NeonEmu
04-07-2009, 12:57 PM
Yeah - I'm well aware of all of this crap. Realistically, if you're not doing anything illegal, you should be pretty ok unless you're some kind of major porn fiend, web developer (with shit tons of files to tfer up and down etc) or A.D.D. suffering gamer that feels the need to purchase a new game every couple of days.

Also, netflix hurts. Like ow. So quit downloading so many HD netflix movies and make use of your DVR (record movies off the guide for later watchin...) and etc. Or just have the movies sent to your house. Seriously, patience = virtue, not to mention TV = bigger. lol :p

Get rid of your p2p shit, stop buying/downloading every game you can get your hands on and atleast finish the one you just bought... etc.

It sucks, but if you're a normal user you should be ok. Luckily for me, being on a pc all day at work pretty much neutralizes any urge to get on my computer at home. Well, that and I have no HD space left. Bah humbug. :p

Jesus F. Christ
04-07-2009, 01:02 PM
Guess I gotta start paying for Soulseek :P

Wyld Stallyns
04-07-2009, 01:11 PM
Yeah - I'm well aware of all of this crap. Realistically, if you're not doing anything illegal, you should be pretty ok unless you're some kind of major porn fiend, web developer (with shit tons of files to tfer up and down etc) or A.D.D. suffering gamer that feels the need to purchase a new game every couple of days.

Also, netflix hurts. Like ow. So quit downloading so many HD netflix movies and make use of your DVR (record movies off the guide for later watchin...) and etc. Or just have the movies sent to your house. Seriously, patience = virtue, not to mention TV = bigger. lol :p

Get rid of your p2p shit, stop buying/downloading every game you can get your hands on and atleast finish the one you just bought... etc.

It sucks, but if you're a normal user you should be ok. Luckily for me, being on a pc all day at work pretty much neutralizes any urge to get on my computer at home. Well, that and I have no HD space left. Bah humbug. :p

haha...so basically limit our use of a service so we don't get gouged and have to pay more?

what a load of shit. pull your head out of your ass and stop towing the company line.

AnomiChris
04-07-2009, 01:40 PM
Good thing i have Grande!

Wyld Stallyns
04-07-2009, 03:41 PM
Good thing i have Grande!

ALL service providers will be switching to this @ some point.

Jozef
04-07-2009, 04:16 PM
im switching to earthlink. they do not cap

spacemonkey
04-07-2009, 04:33 PM
haha...so basically limit our use of a service so we don't get gouged and have to pay more?

what a load of shit. pull your head out of your ass and stop towing the company line.

I have to agree with you on this...TWC is grubby-corporate-top-of-the-line-money-hungry-entity...and you Neon Emu happen to be a TWC monkey!!! I do agree with getting rid of the hackers, spammers, botters, and basically all the BS...Yet when your corporate execs. do not think this through appropriately, it hurts everyone...TWC tried to do this about a year ago and it was shut down then, what makes you think it will not be shut down again? Additionally to hold your trials in areas that do not even meet the norm of Austin or San Antonio, that is irresponsible thinking. Beaumont, TX and Greensboro, NC do not even compare to Austin and the SA area. Austin is the Silicon Valley of the South. Austin and SA area are expanding, number 1. Number 2, you have 8 colleges within a half an hour to an hour of each other. The demographics of Austin and SA are way different than the demographics of Greensboro and Beaumont, end of story.

junglist247365
04-07-2009, 05:31 PM
im switching to earthlink. they do not cap

call earthlink and you will be surprised when a TWC rep comes to install your lines with TWC equipment :biggrin: there is no difference Earthlink will follow TWC path, they have to they rely on those contracts to supply bandwidth to their customers

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I just though of another killer, VPN.. all those buisness customers are going to get pissed when they start getting charged extra to work from home!

junglist247365
04-07-2009, 05:35 PM
I have to agree with you on this...TWC is grubby-corporate-top-of-the-line-money-hungry-entity...and you Neon Emu happen to be a TWC monkey!!! I do agree with getting rid of the hackers, spammers, botters, and basically all the BS...Yet when your corporate execs. do not think this through appropriately, it hurts everyone...TWC tried to do this about a year ago and it was shut down then, what makes you think it will not be shut down again? Additionally to hold your trials in areas that do not even meet the norm of Austin or San Antonio, that is irresponsible thinking. Beaumont, TX and Greensboro, NC do not even compare to Austin and the SA area. Austin is the Silicon Valley of the South. Austin and SA area are expanding, number 1. Number 2, you have 8 colleges within a half an hour to an hour of each other. The demographics of Austin and SA are way different than the demographics of Greensboro and Beaumont, end of story.


still won't stop them or ATT or Grande or Earthlink or Cox ..... they are trying to subsidize the cost of laying down all the fiber, router, switches etc to be able to support the increased loads they have been experiencing for years now.. ultimately that is what we are paying for a tax on new infrastructure.. the Bell companies did the same thing with phone lines until they eventually became obsolete.. tha's why long distance was so pricey in the 70's-90's .. they once had a monopoly that was JUSTIFIED and allow by the government in order to garentee the further development of our current analog system.. they held the monopoly for 30 some odd years

NeonEmu
04-07-2009, 06:08 PM
Wtf? TWC monkey? Dude, I'm just shelling out some common knowledge ways of not getting your ass charged for over use. I never said I agreed with the capping or anything, so why the hell throw anti-TWC shit at me?

Unfortunately, TWC has quite a monopoly on things. So complaining about it REALLY isn't going to do much. You can switch to other companies, but like was mentioned some of them are one and the same. Soooo what does that leave you? YEAH. At the same point. IF the bandwidth cap goes through (which in my mind seriously doesn't have much of a chance..as mentioned, its failed once, it may fail again) then you will just have to wireshark your shit and monitor your usage or else you may be seeing a tighter wallet.

In short, I gives no fuck. :rofl::rofl::rofl: I hardly use my pc and I was just commenting on the thread. My .02 :)

spacemonkey
04-07-2009, 06:51 PM
still won't stop them or ATT or Grande or Earthlink or Cox ..... they are trying to subsidize the cost of laying down all the fiber, router, switches etc to be able to support the increased loads they have been experiencing for years now.. ultimately that is what we are paying for a tax on new infrastructure.. the Bell companies did the same thing with phone lines until they eventually became obsolete.. tha's why long distance was so pricey in the 70's-90's .. they once had a monopoly that was JUSTIFIED and allow by the government in order to garentee the further development of our current analog system.. they held the monopoly for 30 some odd years


This is true...I used to work for the wireless side of ATT when it first merged with ATT wireless and became Cingular...so forth and so on. I have seen the greediness of corporate America. As people have previously said it is great in idea to stop the spammers, botters, hackers, etc. by limiting bandwidth through pricing. However at the same time we common folk get shafted by this. We can longer stream our precious media from the net with out exorbitant rates. Some of it may because corporations want a piece of the pie when they are not entitled to it (also mentioned earlier). How do we solve this issue, it is tough. First off if we upgraded the "grid", then some of the issues with traffic and congestion will be resolved. The telecommunications companies and market have held down the infrastructure for so long it is not funny. Right now we are still running on a 20-35 year old telecommunications infrastructure. Our cable modems till go to the box and come into our houses by a coaxial. Fiber is the best but that is still hampered with distance and a tired grid to begin with. Europe and Japan are light years ahead of us. Whose fault is it really that we are in this state. The way I see it, it is not the consumer's fault. Our tax dollars and the revenue that these companies make, have long paid for the re-building of the network. We could have upped the grid so to say, years ago and we would not have to go through this...Yet no one really sees it.

spacemonkey
04-07-2009, 06:54 PM
Wtf? TWC monkey? Dude, I'm just shelling out some common knowledge ways of not getting your ass charged for over use. I never said I agreed with the capping or anything, so why the hell throw anti-TWC shit at me?

Unfortunately, TWC has quite a monopoly on things. So complaining about it REALLY isn't going to do much. You can switch to other companies, but like was mentioned some of them are one and the same. Soooo what does that leave you? YEAH. At the same point. IF the bandwidth cap goes through (which in my mind seriously doesn't have much of a chance..as mentioned, its failed once, it may fail again) then you will just have to wireshark your shit and monitor your usage or else you may be seeing a tighter wallet.

In short, I gives no fuck. :rofl::rofl::rofl: I hardly use my pc and I was just commenting on the thread. My .02 :)

Sorry if my comments were harsh earlier, yet if I am not mistaken you work for TWC....I just assumed you road the corporate bandwagon with your post. I have no love for corporations that push the lowly person around. Working for ATT has done that.

NeonEmu
04-07-2009, 07:24 PM
Sorry if my comments were harsh earlier, yet if I am not mistaken you work for TWC....I just assumed you road the corporate bandwagon with your post. I have no love for corporations that push the lowly person around. Working for ATT has done that.

Just because they give me money doesn't mean they control my thoughts. :) I was just trying to be helpful, it's funny how everyone reads to far in to shit now a days. No biggie though.

junglist247365
04-07-2009, 07:55 PM
This is true...I used to work for the wireless side of ATT when it first merged with ATT wireless and became Cingular...so forth and so on. I have seen the greediness of corporate America. As people have previously said it is great in idea to stop the spammers, botters, hackers, etc. by limiting bandwidth through pricing. However at the same time we common folk get shafted by this. We can longer stream our precious media from the net with out exorbitant rates. Some of it may because corporations want a piece of the pie when they are not entitled to it (also mentioned earlier). How do we solve this issue, it is tough. First off if we upgraded the "grid", then some of the issues with traffic and congestion will be resolved. The telecommunications companies and market have held down the infrastructure for so long it is not funny. Right now we are still running on a 20-35 year old telecommunications infrastructure. Our cable modems till go to the box and come into our houses by a coaxial. Fiber is the best but that is still hampered with distance and a tired grid to begin with. Europe and Japan are light years ahead of us. Whose fault is it really that we are in this state. The way I see it, it is not the consumer's fault. Our tax dollars and the revenue that these companies make, have long paid for the re-building of the network. We could have upped the grid so to say, years ago and we would not have to go through this...Yet no one really sees it.

telecommunications is one of the things that Obama is starting to push as even the government realizes we are behind the times... part of the government stimulus package was to pay for some of the costs and create more jobs by pushing telcom companies to start thinking about going the distance w/ fiber... they seem to be responding w/ higher increases justified by saying its to level out the network bottle necks so it is a bit of a ploy on the part of the cable companies... but it looks like a train wreck and we are already off the tracks, i really don't think that there is much we can do about it if all the providers jump on board with this the consumer will suffer but hey haven't we dealt with cell phone companies paying .40 a minute over at one point too... did that stop us from buying them only to get $300-400 phone bills every month.. its leveling itself out but for a long time it was out of control.. we live in a capitalist society eventually competition will drive this down to a reasonable per/GB cost and it will be like it never happened... (fingers crossed) just another pattern to follow in the telcom industry, buckle up!

perpetualnoize
04-07-2009, 08:27 PM
Guess I gotta start paying for Soulseek :P

This is going to suck.

spacemonkey
04-08-2009, 12:06 PM
Yeah it is...and yes Obama was doing a good thing until the damned republicans shot it down and said to much money...Net Neutrality any one!!!

the hoser
04-08-2009, 12:12 PM
FUCK!!
Im in a 2yr contract. 1 1/2 to go.
I guess Im a future Grande subscriber!

laurenislost
04-08-2009, 01:27 PM
FUCK!!
Im in a 2yr contract. 1 1/2 to go.
I guess Im a future Grande subscriber!

How did you get swindled into that? Did they at least give you some kind of deal?

the hoser
04-08-2009, 01:30 PM
How did you get swindled into that? Did they at least give you some kind of deal?

yes
I got the promotional package, or so they say!
TWC<any thing else (at this point)

JT.High
05-10-2009, 04:04 AM
A little late but good news.

http://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo/stories/2009/04/20/daily1.html

Time Warner puts off 'Net tier billing


Time Warner Cable (http://ad.doubleclick.net/imp;v7;j;213950569;0-0;0;17652737;0/0;31055321/31073197/1;;%7Eaopt=2/1/c9/0;%7Eokv=;beh=;pos=t1;vs=media_marketing;sz=728x90 ;tile=1;kw=buffalo;dcopt=ist;%7Ecs=a%3fhttp://m1.2mdn.net/1460409/mastercard3.htm?t=10&cT=http%3A//ad.doubleclick.net/click%253Bh%3Dv8/3829/2/0/%252a/s%253B213950569%253B0-0%253B0%253B17652737%253B255-0/0%253B31055321/31073197/1%253B%253B%257Eaopt%253D2/1/c9/0%253B%257Esscs%253D%253f&l=http%3A//www.bizjournals.com/buffalo/related_content.html%3Ftopic%3DTime%2520Warner%252 0Cable) has shelved its plans to shift its residential broadband customers to “consumption-based billing”, according to an announcement from the company.
The cable giant’s plan was to price its home broadband service by tiers according to how much data customers use. Critics of the plan said it would raise rates dramatically for those who use Internet video, phone and other bandwidth-heavy applications.
Rochester was scheduled to be a test market for the plan, which led to an outcry from Time Warner customers in that area.
CEO Glenn Britt said there has been “a great deal of misunderstanding” by consumers and lawmakers who have criticized the plan harshly.
“As a result, we will not proceed with implementation of additional tests until further consultation with our customers and other interested parties, ensuring that community needs are being met,” Britt said.
Britt added that the company still believes consumption-based billing may be the best way to allocate the cost of providing bandwidth among heavy and light Internet users. Time Warner Cable plans to make measurement tools available to its customers to help them understand how much bandwidth they consume.
Time Warner Cable is the franchise provider for much of Upstate New York, including the Buffalo area.

NeonEmu
05-10-2009, 11:43 AM
A proper "I told you so" is in order here for a few people. LOL!

spacemonkey
05-11-2009, 05:25 PM
eeeehhhhh.....heard about that...TWC wants a piece of the market because they are losing advertising dollars because of what is on the internet....TWC does not deserve it nor should they be entitled to it....Wait someone already said this insight already.